Faculty Council Business Meeting
Tuesday, February 25, 2003, 12 noon
Esther M. Cohen Dining Room, Cohen House
Present: John Zammito (Speaker), Ed Akin, Stephen Baker, Steven Crowell,
Chandler Davidson, Deborah Harter, Tom Haskell, Lynne Huffer, Hannah Landecker,
Bob Patten, Herb Ward, and Jennifer West. Absent: André Droxler,
Scott McGill, Julia Morgan, and Mark Wiesner.
Guests (Honor Code ad hoc Committee): Ron Sass (Chair), Kevin Arceneaux,
Patricia Bass, Lisa Cassedy, Linda Cooper, Carlos Garcia, Don Johnson, Lauren
Kern, Kathleen Milazzo, Allen Matusow, Joan Shreffler, James Sullivan, Duane
Windsor, and Joel Wolfe.
(1) Minutes (2/11/03 and 2/20/03): The minutes were accepted as written.
(2) Honor Council Proposal (discussion with Honor Code ad hoc Committee):
Zammito welcomed the members of the Honor Code ad hoc Committee, and he
provided an overview of the issues that Council would like to discuss with them.
Sass gave to Council his committees draft plan, and he described it as
a running draft document, and he said that they will continue to
add information to it as the process moves forward. Sass then stated that after
his committee has completed its reviews, they will send a series of recommendations
to Zenaido Camacho.
Zammito said that the Faculty Council is very interested in working with Sasss
committee to resolve the concerns involved, and that many of the statements
in Sass committees plan reflect what the Faculty Council has in
mind. Zammito stressed the importance of not putting students in harms
way by sloppiness or poor management of those matters. Faculty Council will
encourage the faculty to do everything in its power to make explicit, procedurally
appropriate requirements (as they see them for their classes) under the Honor
Code.
Sass said that he will do everything in his power to ensure the students handle
the Honor Code, but the faculty should have a larger role in the process. He
stated that he would place that role at the first level of appeal above the
Honor Council. Sass then said that the faculty is very much more familiar with
students than is the administrationwith a few exceptions. He emphasized
that the faculty owes it to the students and to the administration to serve
as a buffer group for the students. Sass said that his committee would try to
complete their report by the end of the semester.
Patten emphasized that we are in a political process. He said that if the Honor
Council constitution is to be voted upon, it makes a big difference to have
one quarter of the enrolled-students turnover by the fall. He stressed
that it would be very useful for Sasss committee to make recommendations
on these particular issues sooner, rather than later. Patten said that he feels
very committed to what the Honor Council is doing right now.
Crowell asked Sass if the Honor Council proposal was a part of the Honor Code
ad hoc Committees charge. Sass replied that the Honor Councils proposal
did not go to his committee. He stated that he agreed to chair the Honor Code
ad hoc Committee before he was aware of the proposal and before he knew about
the situation that was taking place. Sass stressed that his committees
deliberations could include the Honor Council amendments, but the committees
charge goes far beyond the Honor Councils proposal. He said that they
are involved in a historical process of reevaluation, and that he thinks the
last one was in 1987.
Sass said that in his committees plan, education is a very large issue
and special attention should be paid to certain groups. He emphasized that if
you can sell the coaches, it is easy to sell the athletes; and if you can sell
the faculty of the Jones School, it is easy to sell the members of that school;
and if you can sell the people in departments teaching pre-meds, it is easy
to reach the pre-meds. Sass stated that the Coach could say, If you get
involved with the Honor Council, I dont care how it comes out, you are
off the team.
The Speaker said that President Gillis requested that the Faculty Council provide
him with their appraisal of the Honor Council proposal. He then stated that
it would be very helpful if Sasss committee, with deliberation and without
undue haste, could take a stand on the proposal this year. Zammito reiterated
that Faculty Council is going to respond to the Honor Council and to the President,
this semester, to ensure that this matter is resolved.
Sass replied that it was obvious that Faculty Councils role was to respond
to the Honor Council and to President Gillis, regarding the Honor Councils
proposal. He repeated that his committee did not receive such a charge. Sass
said that he could see the Faculty Council arriving at an opinion and then asking
the Honor Code ad hoc Committee if they agreed. Sass emphasized that he would
like to work with the Faculty Council in that manner.
Haskell said that he saw no reason why the Honor Code ad hoc Committee could
not go ahead and address the issues piecemeal, over a period of time. He then
asked Garcia if he could specify anything that the Faculty Council should consider.
Garcia stated that he had some ideas about those issues, but he was not sure
this meeting was the place to talk about it. He said that some of those comments
would come with his lawyer hat on and that at another time, he would be glad
to talk with the Faculty Council about those issues.
Haskell stated that at a university, even controversial issues are to be handled
in public. He said that a failure in making your views public means that you
are checking out of the debate and losing your right to be a part of the process,
and if the legal counsel has a statement to be made, it should be public.
Garcia said that he has never seen the proposal and that the Presidents
Office was trying to weigh the other side of the equation. Zammito said that
he was a little surprised by that comment because Zansitis had access to the
proposalhe had read it and had given his opinion of it. Garcia disagreed
because he had discussed the matter with Zansitis and Zansitis hadnt seen
it either and that all they knew came from the Thresher report. Patten said
that if that was true, it signified an incredible problem. He said that we then
had developed a system where things were not sent to Counsel by the President,
or things got tied up in the Counsels Office because Counsel had some
objectionsthus, the General Counsels Office became a roadblock or
an excuse for inaction. Patten said that he would like to see the issue resolved
this spring.
West stated that she thought it was the Faculty Councils responsibility
to address the situation and fix it this spring. She also said that a lot of
the younger members of the faculty feel that they have had issues in their classes,
which they do not know how to address.
Baker agreed that Faculty Council had something on its plate from the Honor
Council and from President Gillis, so it had to address those matters. He then
asked if there were any second thoughts that the Honor Council would
like for the Faculty Council to consider as they read the proposal. Shreffler
replied that the final language regarding the board of appeal with faculty representation
has been slightly amended, but otherwise there were no substantial changes.
Zammito emphasized that the Faculty Council has to take a stand and it will
do so. He said that he will welcome sustained collaboration with the ad hoc
committee in regard to the Honor Code, whether or not the Sass committee
has its full proposal prepared in time this spring. The Speaker expressed that
if the Honor Code ad hoc committee will not have their view on the Honor Council
proposal ready in the spring, his hope is that they will tell the President
that they do not wish for him to wait authorize the student vote on constitutional
amendments until their report is completed. Sass reassured Faculty Council that,
at the least, his committee will advise President Gillis if that is the case.
Zammito thanked the guests for meeting with the Faculty Council and said that
their counsel will be requested again.
(3) Adjournment: The meeting was adjourned at 1:30 p.m., and the next
Faculty Council business meeting is scheduled for March 25, 2003, 12:00 noon,
Cohen House, Esther M. Cohen Dining Room.
Ellen Butler
Secretary