Summary of Meeting with Chemical Engineering, ECE, Environmental Science Tuesday, April 1, 1997

Attending: Joe Hightower, Sarita Adve, Bill Wilson, Tom Rabson, J. D. Wise, Bart Sinclair, Derek Dylan, Walter Chapman, Clarence Miller, Bob Jump, Mark Wiesner, Joe Hughes, Ka-yiu San, Phil Bedient; for the committee, John Hutchinson and Sid Burris.

The discussion focused primarily on what could be provided by general education that is not provided without such courses. Two types of general education course models were presented: a "great books and great equations" approach, and a "thematic" approach (e.g., study spiders). The goal of the first type is to provide a common ground based on the argument that all educated people should know certain things. The goal of the second type is to give varied viewpoints on a subject and encourage students to find the connections between the different perspectives. Both goals and courses were considered reasonable but should not be confused with one another.

A major goal of general education discussed is the creation of the ability to learn on one's own, so that training is adaptable to many situations. Students should, after graduation, be able to pursue a variety of interests. Another significant goal is the creation of a socially aware student, capable of becoming an informed and effective citizen. Engineering students are often focused too narrowly on their own disciplines and are uninformed about pressing social issues and needs.

Other goals of general education include: effective speaking skills; writing proficiency; critical thinking skills; self-critical discipline; ability to make interconnections between subjects and ways of thinking; scientific literacy; and discussion in small groups.

Two major concerns were raised:

  • lack of resources.
  • lack of time by the students.

It was felt by many that major requirements are currently so burdensome that there is no room to add general education requirements. On the other hand, ABET requirements include items that might and should be included in the general education requirement, so dropping general education might simply increase major requirements.

An advantage of a Great Books course (e.g., HUMA) is that it permits engineering students to interact with and learn to communicate effectively with non-engineers, e.g., future MBA's and managers.

One member of the group proposed outlawing multiple majors.

One member of the group proposed elimination of all general education requirements.

The freshman seminar concept seemed favorable to most everyone present, although resources are of concern.